Chess Twitter Is Something Else

22. feb.. 2021
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Hikaru reads the latest chess related twitter drama involving PogChamps, Esports, and growing the game.
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  • Hey thanks for featuring me in ur video I sent the PayPal

    GothamChessGothamChess11 dager siden
    • @Fletcher Lawson awesome! It took like 10 minutes but it reallyworked!

      Wayne PeterWayne Peter3 dager siden
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      Fletcher LawsonFletcher Lawson3 dager siden
    • j,e.w

      IM 5DIM 5D8 dager siden
    • Levy

      Glimpse BeyondGlimpse Beyond8 dager siden
    • Yan is the madest chess player in the world, acuses brazilian GM Supi of cheating '-'

      Danimar da SilvaDanimar da Silva9 dager siden
  • Real Gs like me don't watch Pogchamps or GM tournaments. We wait until agadmator posts his video on the match

    sehhi vootysehhi vooty16 timer siden
  • Real Gs like me don't watch Pogchamps or GM tournaments. We wait until agadmator posts his video on the match

    nieooj gotoynieooj gotoyDag siden
  • You seem really down to earth and a solid, unstading dude. Kudos.

    NaoiseNaoise2 dager siden
    • would be brought up by one of the tweet lol

      sehhi vootysehhi vooty16 timer siden
  • POV: This is on your recommended, you suck at chess, but you think Hikaru is funny

    asioe kiouasioe kiou3 dager siden
    • james canty is such a positive and entertaining guy was only a matter of time :-)

      nieooj gotoynieooj gotoyDag siden
  • If anything I’m now watching “real chess” after watching pogchamps

    Tam PTam P3 dager siden
  • Magnus is humble and full of himself at the same time lmao

    Ailsa NiAilsa Ni3 dager siden
    • more viewers

      asioe kiouasioe kiou3 dager siden
  • Classic Magnus' sarcasm - goes as many levels deep as his chess moves. We're lucky to have these top level guys who aren't haters.

    bocoy noiubocoy noiu4 dager siden
  • All Chess Matters!

    KDJfiur02874rKDJfiur02874r5 dager siden
    • I only watched Tata

      Ailsa NiAilsa Ni3 dager siden
  • More people interested in chess, more money the professional chess players get. Look at the soccer, how much those players get compared to 30 years ago. Just because the game became more popular. Only idiots like Nepomniatchi don't understand that

    SpawnSpawn5 dager siden
    • I want pee wee baseball banned, it's taking attention away from the pros.

      bocoy noiubocoy noiu4 dager siden
  • Never realized so many elitists were in chess...I thought video games was bad...

    CASCAS5 dager siden
  • well, he isnt wrong in that it is popcorn, however it is expanding the interest in chess. I have little tolerance myself for youtube 'personalities' as such.

    mister klugemister kluge5 dager siden
  • Classic Magnus' sarcasm - goes as many levels deep as his chess moves. We're lucky to have these top level guys who aren't haters.

    eioshen boboieioshen boboi5 dager siden
  • It would be insane If google assistant had hikaru voice! I would totally pay for that!

    Shady mathersShady mathers6 dager siden
  • It is true tho. I feel like a lot of GM's are on the spectrum.

    VanguardVanguard6 dager siden
    • This is a reflection of the elitists that run top tier chess poorly not on PogChamps :))))

      eioshen boboieioshen boboi5 dager siden
  • In all honesty I haven't watched a single pogchamps video

    Jordan MenendezJordan Menendez6 dager siden
  • Sad that so many people don't get Magnus' 190 IQ sarcasm.

    mrkikymrkiky6 dager siden
  • I love how people dont get that Magnus is joking like, how would he even know that Ludwig is playing if he wasnt following the event NZKZKZZZISL

    Comandante ThornComandante Thorn6 dager siden
  • would be brought up by one of the tweet lol

    qopoy dnonqopoy dnon6 dager siden
  • james canty is such a positive and entertaining guy was only a matter of time :-)

    Lao TzwhoLao Tzwho6 dager siden
  • Magnus’ joke is that he secretly watches because he’s familiar with the participants in spite of his claims that he doesn’t watch. In case it wasn’t clear

    Nick SchneiderNick Schneider6 dager siden
    • balanced, and ambitious content creator for chess. You are a voice of reason that's critical to the future of chess.

      qopoy dnonqopoy dnon6 dager siden
  • This is just sad that competitive event's don't get as much recognition as pogchamps. in Formula Racing, nobody cares about F2 it apply to most sports competitive event need more viewers

    CarbonCarbon7 dager siden
  • Magnus blundered the G

    Anton HelsgaunAnton Helsgaun7 dager siden
  • I only watched Tata

    Kieran CzyzniejewskiKieran Czyzniejewski7 dager siden
  • I want pee wee baseball banned, it's taking attention away from the pros.

    James BuieJames Buie7 dager siden
  • Pro Chess Players : Pogchamp is a disgrace ! Music, Movie, Arts, Almost any Sports Industry : First time ?

    Ben DeGorroBen DeGorro7 dager siden
  • People who are making chess entertaining and fun for the masses are great ambassadors for the game. People involved in PoG Champs along with the GM's & IM's (not naming you all!), are breathing new life into chess and that's something great for the community.

    Alyssa McCarthyAlyssa McCarthy7 dager siden
  • I only watch the finals or semi finals of serious chess this pogChamps I watched most of the games. I'd be down for a tag match between xqc hikaru vs magnus and lud. but they can't contact eachother. hikaru makes a move magnus makes a move. lugwig makes a move xqc makes a move. something like this.

    Mochi MochiMochi Mochi7 dager siden
  • People need to learn high level sarcasm.

    NinjycoonNinjycoon7 dager siden
  • This is a reflection of the elitists that run top tier chess poorly not on PogChamps :))))

    WeirdchampWeirdchamp7 dager siden
  • I started playing and being interested in chess because I kept seeing chess content from a lot of creators. I'm still a beginner, but I feel like this is bringing new people to chess and that's awesome!

    Sergiu PloscarSergiu Ploscar7 dager siden
  • You can’t have Robert Hess broadcasting every high level or long time control tournament to make these events enjoyable and understandable. Nepo and others gotta understand: low elo audience + time = high elo audience, no low elo audience + time = the end of chess.

    Alex CzarnomskiAlex Czarnomski7 dager siden
  • _No juicers?_ Sad. ;-)

    y1521t21b5y1521t21b57 dager siden
  • This is the problem I see with Ian's argument. He is assuming Pog-Champs will set a new standard for chess tournaments, and become more popular than the standard high- level super gm tournament. Pog-champs is, in a sense, ALREADY more popular than any other chess series based on viewership numbers. But problem with assuming that this will monopolize on consumer demand is that, as people watch more chess, they will also want to watch better chess. Furthermore, I cannot see more than one Pog-champs existing realistically at one time. People engage with it precisely because it is a collection of the hottest twitch personalities, and therefore, if "pog-champs" tournaments did become the norm, it would also require a disproportionate amount of high-profile streamers to expand.

    Neil MacDonaldNeil MacDonald7 dager siden
  • Big chad reply right there by xQc, what a madman.

    ToujouToujou7 dager siden
  • Honestly, chess is the only game where elitists have a problem with low tier play. Chess will never have mass appeal if it can't show people that chess is fun at any skill level. The space needs to lighten up and get over it's ideals. I have to be honest, I don't like watching chess in traditional formats.. At all. It's boring and I can't relate to the play. I highly dislike Yans hot take, and I find his points contradictory to his initial statements while being grossly detached from the consumers point of view. Thank you Hikaru for being a balanced, and ambitious content creator for chess. You are a voice of reason that's critical to the future of chess.

    Timo JTimo J7 dager siden
  • TSM gave you a shot.... Esports + Chess = YES

    BeatBoxing MooseBeatBoxing Moose8 dager siden
  • Did xQc just checkmated Magnus Carlsen? 😂😂😂

    JensinoJensino8 dager siden
  • I don't even see what are these people worring about. One of the concerns is that "people who watch pog champs don't watch other tournments" ... and? What's the problem here? People who already watch normal tournments are for sure still going to watch them, they will never stop watching them for pogchamps, and if people who are new to chess and only watch pogchamps and never transition to other tournments then chess popularity stays the same, doesn't decrease. And I'm sure at least a few people are going to watch other tournments after pogchamps even if they are a minority. Next is the "changing how chess works to appeal to a larger audience"... Hasn't chess done this so many times throught the years? Chess started being streamed online exactly for the same reason and I'm sure alot of people where defensive about it. Pog champs is not trying to change how the game is played or how high elo tournments works, they are completly parallel realities. Pog champs in the best case scenario is going to bring more people into chess, in the worst case scenerio it's just going to be neutral and it isn't going to change anything. Pogchamps will never ruin how classic chess is enjoyed. Computers have changed chess way more, sometimes in a negative way, than pog champs has. We are like soccer moms watching our kids playing terrible soccer. It's entertaining but we aren't going to change how professional soccer function, we are just here to see our kids play bad but in a entertaining way.

    paulgotikpaulgotik8 dager siden
  • Did someone understood the connection between nudity and classical music? I've never seen someone playing classical music nude but I guess I've been to the wrong concerts.

    paulgotikpaulgotik8 dager siden
  • The gatekeeping in chess is unreal. Be happy POGCHAMPS is exposing it to a broader audience smfh

    Why Can't I Think Of A Name?Why Can't I Think Of A Name?8 dager siden
    • MetappoMetappo8 dager siden
  • Gatekeeping is so bad and ultimately leads to the downfall of the thing you’re gatekeeping.

    Dee BlanDee Blan8 dager siden
  • Why would I ban people, that's insane. You have things to teach to sardoche Hikaru, and not only about chess

    rex osirisrex osiris8 dager siden
  • Magnus es noruego... rubius es noruego... entonces estaria muuuuy chido que rubius jugara con el en un torneo

    Juan David HermosilloJuan David Hermosillo8 dager siden
  • I mean the last game between carlsen and so garnered double almost triple the viewers tho

    Leumel PostreroLeumel Postrero8 dager siden
  • Wait was Magnus joking or serious?

    TheJimmyJLCTheJimmyJLC8 dager siden
  • XQC's reply ooooooooooooof

    Arnav RawatArnav Rawat8 dager siden
  • When ppl talk about ppl, no information will be worth anything

    hahahahaha hahahahahahahahaha hahahaha8 dager siden
  • I love seeing Hikaru beat jokes to death with analysis just like he does to his opponents.

    joey rasmussonjoey rasmusson8 dager siden
  • 13:37 is that Alexandra Botez tweet muted in Hikaru's account? She had the top reply to Giri's tweet.

    Ivanei AraujoIvanei Araujo8 dager siden
  • Why is 95% of the stream commentary asinine and immature? I can see 25% but 95? I honestly don't understand.

    Clark PotterClark Potter8 dager siden
  • someone in the chat said he blundered the G

    Julie DurandJulie Durand8 dager siden
  • I do think there is a valid argument that popularizing low level chess risks it becoming more popular than actual high level chess thus removing the need to actually develop into a good player. This isn't exclusive to chess either. Boxing has recently had a similar issue with the rising popularity of influencer boxing matches. However, I would argue that it is fine for low level chess to be more popular in the short term. The reality is that chess on twitch is a fad. Just like sea of thieves, tarkov, fortnite, gta rp, fall guys and every other game that fell off .. chess will too. And when it does, it will have already created millions of additional chess fans during its time. These fans will benefit the long term prosperity of the game.

    Ryan SaltRyan Salt8 dager siden
  • I personally enjoy watching pogchamps almost more because it’s at my level and I can be much more interactive and it’s not all going over my head

    WinFreeWinFree8 dager siden
  • GMBenjaminFinegold: Get off my lawn

    depushdepush8 dager siden
  • i'm not super into playing chess, let alone following events, but i'm very curious. What are computers doing to make games more difficult at GM levels?

    Cade EllisCade Ellis8 dager siden
  • I don't understand how people who make a living off of chess try to gatekeep the game. Don't they realize that they are working in the Entertainment Industry and that their paycheck depends on the fanbase that their game has. I know it's (probably) a joke, but there are a couple of GMs that actually are like that.

    K PK P8 dager siden
    • @K P I was referring to ancient chess. You're absolutely correct though.

      MetappoMetappo7 dager siden
    • @Metappo But chess is litteraly designed for entertainment, it's a game. Professional Chess players are basically like Let's Player or professional soccer players, they all earn their money by offering a service, that service being entertainment.

      K PK P8 dager siden
    • I understand what you mean to say but chess never belonged to the entertainment industry in the first place.

      MetappoMetappo8 dager siden
  • This attitude baffles me. Like there are so many examples of how this plays out in other games/sports/competitions. Does anyone begrudge high school basketball or college basketball because it degrades the NBA? Do they dislike the celebrity match at the all star game because Kevin Hart distracts from the greatness of Lebron James? Does Japan’s obsession with high school baseball or the US’ obsession with March Madness detract from professional competition? Is Division 3 college athletics a stain on sports? Does community theater or high school theater sully Shakespeare? It’s not the audience’s responsibility to make a chess tournament exciting, it’s on the folks who organize the tournament (if they so choose to). I’m no cricket fan, but from what I understand, an Indian version of the game called Twenty20 that drastically changed the format of games to make them more high octane was a radical departure from notoriously drawn out games of Test Cricket. And it’s become among the biggest and most entertaining pro cricket leagues. And those same athletes can do both! The NHL has different hockey rink sizes from Olympic hockey to make the games more exciting. Who cares?? And man. Let’s just have fun playing this game and enjoy the fact that internet services help those of us who don’t have chess playing friends and family to play and learn the game whenever and however we want. It’s awesome. I enjoy playing golf. I’ve never watched a tournament on tv cuz I think it’s boring. Do I admire the top golfers? Sure. I’d rather play golf than watch it. And watching some pro hit 300 yards and sink chip ins from the sand trap does diddly squat for my lousy game. BUT! Playing with friends who are as crappy as I am makes the time and money so very worth it. And that’s what it’s all about. Keep on trucking Hikaru!

    Andrew DAndrew D8 dager siden
  • Roses are Red Violets are Blue I thought this was a Ludwig video, And so did you

    KellestialKellestial8 dager siden
  • Not sure if xQc picked up on the sarcasm or if he was actually annoyed

    Bruce WayneBruce Wayne8 dager siden
  • It's not complicated: PogChamps, like the most popular movies, music, etc, targets the lowest common denominator. Of course some players are not going to be a fan of watching a 1500 Elo chess circus.

    jlushefskijlushefski8 dager siden
  • As a poker player myself, I think it's hilarious that Magnus has no idea how to cater to the fish. It's like he wants to be the best chess player and worst businessman in the world at the same time.

    troycmtroycm8 dager siden
    • -Calls themselves a poker player -Fails to see the humor

      MetappoMetappo8 dager siden
    • its amazing how a poker player like u cant see the point behind his tweet Amazing

      Alex PoncoAlex Ponco8 dager siden
  • Its also just better to watch rapid/blitz/bullet. In classical chess streams, the commentators move to different boards and mostly show long alternative lines that never happen, also tons of boring interviews and ads

    pedrogoldfingerpedrogoldfinger8 dager siden
  • Look at so many other sport’s. There are plenty of celebrity games. And it doesn’t destroy the game itself.

    Dustin ClarkDustin Clark8 dager siden
  • This makes me wonder if xqc will seriously watch overwatch tournament with full of silver ranked players.

    Garrett WizrinGarrett Wizrin8 dager siden
  • I personally think chess will just always have two different audiences now, the professional part and the more amateur part. People who watch professional games will probably never be interested in events like PogChamps just like people who watch PogChamps will most likely not be interested in watching high level games. This "beef" on Twitter is ridiculous to me, as in my eyes there are just two audiences that are so different from one another. And people like Hikaru, Magnus, etc... Are the few people who partake in both sides of chess. Anyways that was just my opinion :)

    Dr. DreaDr. Drea9 dager siden
  • Hikaru + XQC Magnus + Ludwig Naroditsky + Moist I see some 2v2s in the future.

    Josh YTJosh YT9 dager siden
  • Levons reply sensational

    Mike AmaraMike Amara9 dager siden
  • Chess is at least as much of an esport as pinball, but they're both in that physical space too.

    Austin ArlittAustin Arlitt9 dager siden
  • 1:50 “he blundered the G” -chat

    TrikksterTrikkster9 dager siden
  • and they say video gamers are gatekeepers

    KoTuKoTu9 dager siden
  • I don't mind Pogchamps and I do think in the long run it'll be beneficial for the game, but I do find it kind of tiring how a lot of my NOworld recommendations and Chess content in general has been taken over by it, and the streaming culture/parasocial relationship stuff that is becoming part of it. The novelty has worn off for me and I'm not invested in the people in the tournament, and when their level of play is something I could find in my own games it just becomes an minor annoyance to have to sift through videos recommending it and waiting for Chess creators to cover games I'm actually interested in.

    Dominic McAlpineDominic McAlpine9 dager siden
  • What people don't get is that even if chess advances in a different route, the original format of chess won't die because it is the fundamental chess which you need to you need to understand in order to be able to play the different variants of chess so everyone can enjoy chess how they like it.

    ****9 dager siden
  • They added the "g" in the thumbnail.

    ****9 dager siden
  • Hikaru doesn't know what he's doing. This is gonna blow up in his face so bad.

    Hector Tio SalamancaHector Tio Salamanca9 dager siden
  • magnus and ludwig vs xqc and hikaru hand and brain would be viewer record on twitch EASY

    Randomly InterestingRandomly Interesting9 dager siden
  • I don’t watch serious chess live, I watch them on Agadmator’s Short and sweet, also, informative

    ImfromjamaicamanImfromjamaicaman9 dager siden
  • it's just a board game at the end of the day

    Syn Koleżanki MamySyn Koleżanki Mamy9 dager siden
  • Pogchamps and hikaru are the only reason I've ever watched any real matches

    SteveSteve9 dager siden
  • Chess lan tournaments incoming pog

    ARYAN 197ARYAN 1979 dager siden
  • "...replacing and displacing any real chess content and this is just terrifying". What a load of melodramatic elitist bs. Just let the people have their fun ffs.

    RussellRussell9 dager siden
  • magnum carlos is such a chad

    Pablo HughesPablo Hughes9 dager siden
  • I don't think I'll ever understand why pro players/GMs/etc are being stuck up about the pogchamps stuff. Are they just mad that the hard-earned attention they used to get is now going to 'clowns' who stream for a living and don't even have a 'real' job? Because I've heard that in other communities to a point, people getting mad at streamers taking away their popularity when they 'aren't as skilled'.

    bahamut416bahamut4169 dager siden
  • How many online/mobile snooker/pool games are there? Loads! And I’m sure the people who play them love them! But they don’t take away in the slightest from the actual sport.

    Mohammed PatelMohammed Patel9 dager siden
  • I just saw Ludwig’s video with Magnus and I think the craziest thing about it was that Lud just casually reference Dvoretsky’s Engame Manual near the end. I’ve never read a single chess book and had never heard of that particular one, but now I have heard of it, and may even pick it up because Pogchamps has made me want to get better at chess

    Declan AndrewsDeclan Andrews9 dager siden
  • Magnus makes a joke, dude doesnt get the joke and calls him autistic lol

    abcdef ghijlkmnabcdef ghijlkmn9 dager siden
  • I'm not a chess player and I still watch Mr.Hikaru. I mostly play Go and MTG...

    Darren S.L LiDarren S.L Li9 dager siden
  • People playing chess isn't real chess? Sounds like a case of gate keeping. No it's not replacing anything, it's literally an entirely different demographic. Just because that sub-group is many times the size of the "serious chess" sub-group, doesn't mean it's being replaced. It means there's more people.

    MikeGamerGuyMikeGamerGuy9 dager siden
  • If anything people will see pogchamps, get into chess, and end up watching the real tournaments. Nobody watching top level chess is leaving for PogChamps. It’s nothing but good for chess.

    Hieronymous LexHieronymous Lex9 dager siden
  • FaZe chess team incoming

    GoldTixhGoldTixh9 dager siden
  • Chess people's humor is hard, and rly good.

    A.R.E.S DFLA.R.E.S DFL9 dager siden
  • 7:20 the tweeter underneath Daniel Gormally sent me a replacement mouse once when mine broke, thanks Pascoe, you rock

    Zach BelcherZach Belcher9 dager siden
  • At last Magnus and I have something in common

    futurefox128futurefox1289 dager siden
  • I can already see “how I got noticed by the biggest chess player in the world” on Ludwig’s channel-

    Juicebox JayyyJuicebox Jayyy9 dager siden
  • You said jacksepticeye, your chess player, made a reply. what was it?

    patrick bonerpatrick boner9 dager siden
  • Other people: my twitch streamers talk to some weird chess masters now. Me: my chess youtubers talks to some weird videogame players now. Not complaining, keep it up!

    SignumInterritiSignumInterriti9 dager siden
  • Magnus isn't properly representing my Scandinavian brothers and sisters...

    Magnús Bjartur ÓlafssonMagnús Bjartur Ólafsson9 dager siden
    • ?

      Alex PoncoAlex Ponco9 dager siden
  • But seriously tho, Magnus-Ludwig vs Hikaru-xQc on hand and brain would be really fun and exciting to watch, i hope that it will happen in the near future

    Cypher BruhCypher Bruh9 dager siden
  • Hikaru is 100% right. I would never discover the chess community if not pogchamps. And surely many people will get into the more official face of chess

    franek 123franek 1239 dager siden
  • Hikaru: "There has been studies that becoming a gm at chess is like earning 2 PhDs." Also Hikaru: *becomes GM at age 15* 200iq humble brag

    VoltZVoltZ9 dager siden
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